Your browser does not support JavaScript. This person or these people were hurt as a result, you have a pride problem. The church is nondenominational and has woman pastors and elders. Stuart and Jill Briscoe have always had a passion for teaching God's Word and speaking Truth into people's hearts and moving them toward God. Petes teaching and emphasis on the sufficiency of Christ leaves an indelible mark on so many of our souls. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. I think thats dangerous. Yep, thats rooted in pride. It took me a long time to agree that he had done the things of which he had been accused. Its all a Business and Power tool and stage for Virtue Signaling. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. And where does whats legally expedient for our organization? He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is I have plenty of authentic friends just not at church. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. And unless theyre pollinated by hand, on the one day that the bloom opens, they wont make anything. I was a member of WCCC for many years. Vanilla orchids are actually pollinated by hand in most places. I would love to see Chicago experience revival. I havent seen a lot of true owning, true repenting, true confessing. And not elevated above it. Well, again, Joining me today is Mitch Little a partner with Scheef & Stone in Frisco, Texas. Amen. I mean, I Timothy 5:20 says that we should publicly expose elders who are sinning so that others may take warning. Yes, I totally agree. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. Fellowship, Church family, Community. Why did so many look the other way for so long? Yes, probably a number of your listeners are aware of the situation where the Ortbergs and Mellados had tried to report to the board an alleged long term affair that Bill Hybels was engaged in and the church hired an outside investigator to investigate the situation. And basically, my understanding is his cavalier attitude was, Well, Ill just pick up and Ill open a new church down the street [if] you dont you dont like me the way I am.. My personal belief, not speaking on behalf of anyone else, my personal belief is that that structure is designed to fail, because elders cant elder in that structure. Jill But lets talk about since were talking about the media, Willow Creek had unbelievable resources at its disposal, right. So you can go to Amazon and enter in Boz Tchividjian and his book will pop up but you need to know what youre looking for because people who are sexual predators, they have an acuity for blending into society in ways that they dont stand out like this is not like, you know, the sexual predator in your church is not some, you know, grease ball sitting outside your kids ministry just kind of looking for a way to get at, like, thats our common image of what a sexual predator is. And I feel that way with these pastors. Senior pastors dont need advocates. Volunteers monitored the process in real time, turning over cassettes at the appropriate time to record on the second side. I think there were a few major events. Yes, I would view it far differently today. (See page 54 and following) that keeps the honest person honest. And theres an element to which a church like Willow Creek was a global church, right? And if you dont have a character to lead, no manual is going to help you. And this is whats so difficult. That goes to the guarding role that Attorney Mitch shared. Yes, in the course of representing these women, it became obvious that this was not what Ill call an echelon or tier leadership problem, just at Bill Hybels level. But if you have a pastor with a glaring character flaw youre fooling yourself if you think youre gonna keep that character flaw in line with a pastor who doesnt put Jesus Christ first in his life, am I right? Fifteen years later, I joined staff at Bent Tree. And really, I came back to the Lord at Willow and He used that church to help me reestablish my relationship with Him and with His church. I was blown away. Theyre not holding anybody accountable then. And I think theres a kind of an old guard of megachurch pastors and leaders that think that theyre above accountability and theyre beginning to realize theyre not. Scott Dyer was the worship pastor at Bent Tree Bible fellowship. Right? WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. These little bitty people, from Willows perspective, who helped win the PR back, its a miracle. Petes leadership at Bent Tree casts a long shadow with a legacy that will endure. I totally agree with you Julie on how I viewed the Clergy and Church growing up. The church said in essence, Tsk, tsk. James MacDonald was friends with Ed Stetzer. Okay, how it didnt bring accountability. I mean, that is just huge. Please contact us or click here to learn more about how to enable JavaScript on your browser. Theres a lot of church boards that operate that way. I have been a child of God since I was four and in ministry most of my life. Fortunately, we have not had so much as one complaint about any one of our pastors or staff members. I know the owners Dan and Kurt Marquart personally, and I can say without reservation that they truly run their business with honesty, integrity and transparency. It is what manifests. Was there any evidence found that he actually had an affair? Many more than even Vonda Dyer knew. I know that the original elders of Harvest thought they could keep James accountable despite the knowledge that he had glaring character flaws from the beginning. Its not okay. Pete Briscoe was Senior Pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, TX for nearly 30 years. 1 talking about this. Guest Bios Show Transcript Many times, those who have experienced spiritual abuse are retraumatized when they try to speak about whats happened. Mitch is an attorney, a church elder and an advocate for abuse victims. Hybels at one point had a major conflict with a woman who was serving on the elder board, who was trying to hold him accountable and essentially used a reconciliation process involving some other big names in evangelicalism to essentially run her off, put her under an NDA. I think the load needs to be shared. Think about the people whove done it historically, you know, the Chuck Swindolls that I mean, we can we can run off a list of names, we can also run off a list of failures. There are therapy notes to support her story. Funny, whenever I would watch Bill Hybels preach online or speak at the GLS, and he would go into that quavering voice, tears-in-his-eyes, emotional mode, Id stop listening. So when you have someone who is trusted, whos supposed to be an expert, you know, like a pastor, like a longtime senior pastor whos supposed to be a theological expert, and someone whos in authority like a senior pastor, people are willing to do things to satisfy that person that they would not otherwise do, even if those things seem harmful to another person. When the when the mans lying on the side of the road, naked and bleeding, theyre the priests who cross the street. To me, Bill did not come across as a predator, flirty or suggestive with women. But it just has not really looked like true repentance in so many ways. However, there should be a bubble level of character in Christ that we return to. I learned that from Bill. Its about serving God. When you say the IT department, its my understanding you came into some information about emails getting destroyed. He was running and we were praying that he would surrender fully to God. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And its pervasive, and people are, theyre using it. And its designed to be acretive, right that they gain strength over time. That is a very fair question. But you have seen the the worst of it. Im Julie Roys. and I found these people in those imperfect churches! And when I came into the representation, that was a new term to me, Id never heard anything like it. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. Whats our theology? What is it that causes so many people who know better, to look the other way and allow evil to prosper? That to me, is a corruption of the role. How did that all happen? and so I almost feel like the elder boards are there to keep the honest person honest. What makes you stick with that model and believe it can still be used despite how badly that model has been abused? They had these Global Leadership Summits. That was my upbringing. And my understanding was the elder board set some boundaries for Clinton to be able to come and speak. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. And it turns out there were a lot more women who had been affected by Bill Hybels. And he offers keen insights that are desperately needed as many churches today struggle to be healthy and to avoid the mistakes other megachurches have made. WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. But heres what happened when Scot criticized them publicly. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. Not so much at Willow till after, because I was so wrapped up in the Harvest stuff at that time and the Moody stuff that I didnt really have the capability or the bandwidth to do much reporting about Willow. It grows over time. I God is doing a new work both in the lives of the Briscoe's and in the life of Bent Tree. So Mitch has a very unique perspective. Yeah. So Mitch, thank you so much for taking the time to join me today. On this episode of The Roys Report, Julie explores these important questions with Mitch Little, whos not just an attorney for victims. And I think there is a healthy fear. Continue Reading The Upper Room: John 15 Posted by Nate Murray The cover up of his behavior manifested at the elder board level. And there was also a service at WC where the board interviewed him and was he was questioned about an affair. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. Who hasnt given a friend a friendly kiss once in awhile? Churches sometimes need advocates outside their system. You know, I think, Julie, the other thing that was really whacked out about Willows elder board, and I didnt find this out until very late in the representation was they operated by design out of unanimity. Thank God I have Jesus. He currently leads a multi-faceted media ministry called Telling the Truth which he shares with his parents Stuart and Jill Briscoe. Do we have a theology of goodness at our church? And I have other thoughts about that and how that all worked out. You have your identity rooted in something other than Christ, the centrality of Christ. I encourage leaders to research their selection criteria carefully before they recruit for their next vacancies. What is it was Chicago? And we need to apologize. And I really was hopeful that there was going to be a public apology, and yet, None. So many people are looking the other way. Yeah, totally agree. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe You formed a nonprofit corporation. And they were no friends of ours during the Harvest investigation either. Gifted with wisdom, discernment, and a bit of English humor, the Briscoe's bring God's Word to life. The other woman that Mitch represented will remain confidential but both these cases enabled Mitch to peek behind the curtain at Willow Creek and view upclose some of the dysfunctions that led to that scandal. So, thanks for taking the time and you know, anybody whos willing to take a few minutes out of their vacation for a podcast, I just really appreciate it. And thats not what this is about. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. However, whenever he would do that quavering voice, etc., I would wonder how he could do that for all three identical services? So when you have a culture thats willing to, you know, exfoliate spoiliate, destroy documents in order to preserve a narrative, theres really very little that the culture will not accomplish at the cost of innocent people. Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. But when we look at it from some practical ways that God used people to undo this, explain what you see as being the key forces. This is a person who is pushing a boundary because they want to do something bad. I will always have my faith in Jesus but church especially WCCC has been a huge disappointment. I dont know. Pete is the son of Jill and Stuart Briscoe. WebHi friend, I'm Pete Briscoe. I think that he lost that. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. But they spoke. So Scot, its like the scene in The Avengers when Iron Man just kind of drops out of the sky. If anything has a whiff of impropriety, we would jump on it immediately. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. He now coaches Pete Briscoe | Brookfield WI. I dont agree with a lot of his views, but he said something and it is true, we need to have, you know, church leader needs to have two voices, one for gathering the sheep and one for scaring away wolves. That is not a matter of policy. The radio program began to attract listeners and supporters, enabling the ministry to expand its broadcasting to a growing number of stations throughout the United States and abroad. I mean, you dont need to be trying to fit a round peg into a square hole, because it is gonna manifest itself in bad ways. Its so HARD today to know who to donate to. A man who "dedicated his life to sharing Gods Word with the world" has died at the age of 91. Below is a link to a PDF of the article World Magazine did on a sex abuse scandal involving VOM. Bent Tree is a multi site mega church in the Dallas Fort Worth area thats had its own share of crises over the past several years. Mike is a dear friend and Im sad this day has come. Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. Theres, theres an advocacy piece to lawyering that needs to be there a little bit, but it doesnt need to be pervasive. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. Very few. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both Like they didnt read a book, figuring out how to do it, but there are warning signs that people need to be aware of. So I was really struggling with my faith. At the end of the day the aftermath of destruction is felt on so many levels by so many people and we all react differently in our humanness. I encourage you to start praying again and trust God to open doors for you in godly and meaningful fellowship. And I do think theres a spiritual stronghold, I hope and pray that it will be broken in our area. And I was sitting in my office one day and Vonda picked up the phone and gave me a call and kind of told me what was coming down the pike in terms of the Chicago Tribune article that basically lit the fuse on that entire situation at Willow. Jill With that purpose in mind, they launched theTelling the Truth ministry. Because it was lawyers advice, you know, and its like, where does the word of God play into our decision making? Can you imagine what that does for book sales to be on stage at the Global Leadership Summit among people all over the world and touted as an expert in something? And that set the course for some of these more severe things to continue happening, and then to even get more and more severe. And he realized that he had missed an opportunity to share Christs love with this person, and he didnt even feel worthy to give this message tonight, you know, and he got teared up and, and Im watching this, you know, as a 20, early 20 something right? To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." I dont think that he caused the elder board to resign. And thankyou for all you do in the NAME of JESUS! And Im good friends with her husband Scott Dyer as well. Hi Julie, my name is Teresa and I was wondering if Voice of the Martyr was a good place to donate. None at all. And then everyone could say, Oh, how sad that that one person did that one thing. And if you are not willing to as an organism, or as an organization say, We messed up. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. I thought that emails could always be recovered, even after being erased, by a good IT person. Basically, theyre a rubber stamp., Julie, I have a different take on what happened at WCC. They were almost sacred and benevolent and unable to do wrong. WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. They need accountability. As I was working through the Willow Creek representation with these women, the thing that kept cropping up to me was the Milgram experiment. Youre absolutely right. At the same time. And that was how Bill deformed his accountability structure. Pete grew up in a home with intelligent and committed parents: both I think there was a culture of pride at Willow that basically said, We are the elite of the Christian world. You have to have a strong culture of accountability. Judson is located just 36 miles outside Chicago on a beautiful 90 acre campus. (etc. I would probably have been among those who defended Bill saying, He couldnt have done these things; Hes too strong of a Christian leader. I see this culture as similar to the Corinthian church with the man who was involved with his fathers wife. And if youd like to find me online, just go to JulieRoys.com. So, and youre the chairman of your board. I think one of the things that happens in churches, from a deformed leadership standpoint, is requiring boards to operate in unanimity or using unity as a cudgel against people who have firm convictions about things. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. Thats not to say there arent authentic people there. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. To me, this was one of the beautiful God moves about the entire situation. Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. At least, thats how I saw it. The small tape recording process drew the attention of many people who were eager for a copy of the teaching they heard at church to share with friends and neighbors. I was the senior pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship for nearly 30 years. It is simply to feed ourselves. Today were talking with Pete Briscoe, who served as the senior pastor for nearly three decades at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Carrollton, Texas, and now consults with and coaches pastors. So a young person in our high school ministry. He represented two women involved in the sex abuse scandal involving Bill Hybels. I think it took courage and boldness on his part to be able to do that. Briscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. In the early 2000s, as Stuart and Jill transitioned into minister-at-large roles and spent more time traveling to serve the global church, an additional voice was added in order to bless the supporters ofTelling the Truth. To us, he was Stu, Dad and Poppa and we already miss him achingly." But you had said you had gotten this manual and it was about, you know, basically how to be an elder and how to lead. Not sad or contemplative, but agitated and very irritated. So Im very much looking forward to our time together today. That nonprofit corporation and its bank accounts, thats not what the biblical church is. Think about the psychology of someone who could be doing what was alleged by Pat Baranowski to have been done to her. Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. And this is one of the I think exciting things. God showed him through that sermon how his trip was actually isolating and began a process of transformation. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. But it was after a period of I dont know the details, and I dont know how much youre at liberty to say them, but its my understanding he went away for a period of time to kind of reflect and assess how he was doing and how he was handling things. At that age, I had never had someone in spiritual authority lie or manipulate me. I am with you in this sad place of justified disappointment in the church. Im doing well but probably not as well as you because youre on vacation in Florida. And so when you see behaviors that look like grooming, you know, John Calvin, Im not a Calvinist. So whos supposed to hold whos supposed to hold the leaders accountable in that structure? Its good to be visiting with you again. It took a variety of forms. But we dont have time on this podcast. It was stunning to me. And a lot of us who sat in the congregation and received from them were, you know, duped and we bought it. It was a huge fixture in evangelicalism. Then, I did what all good Christian college students did at that time I acquired a boot-leg copy of the drama and listened to it several times on my own. Just go to BuyACar123.com. I think its Pat Baranowskis story that ran in the New York Times that actually caused that. Pete has offered to I think the larger the platform, the more rigorous the accountability needs to be. The other thing I wanted to talk to you about in you mentioned this in earlier discussion we had about the identity of elders and how so often, and I dont think its just elders, I think its a lot of the senior pastor leadership and staff that their identity tends to become enmeshed with the success or failure of the organization theyre a part of. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is Pete served as the senior pastor at Bent Tree Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas for nearly 30 years, and he now ministers to pastors and organizational executives through personalized, professional coaching. And some of it also involved a culture that was willing to cover for wrongdoing. For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema. I was blown away. Well, I tried other churches and its more of the same. But its an analog. Can I talk about Scot McKnight for a second? 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