Thank you. Before his ACL, he was the best player in the league. Yes, and the rest of the list is just like you said. 14. target="_blank" title="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmoY83GCEAAeR7h.jpg:medium[/img]">https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmoY83GCEAAeR7h.jpg:medium[/img], Posted by FRL on Friday, 05/2/2014 @ 08:43am. They are also the MOST-COVERED Motown act of all timeand have the MOST Grammy Hall of Fame-inducted songs of ANY Motown groupand have the MOST SONGS on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's list of "The 500 Songs That Shaped Rock and Roll". Level 4 I can't in good conscience not include Manu in the Pyramid. Eurythmics (Level 1) James Taylor: 8/10 E.T. The (Young) Rascals: 5/10 In fact, that statement is the only exception to the rule that Rush should even share the same sentence with that other band. -Use 5 levels in your pyramid 57. Yes - 2 (they could be a 1 too but I like them a lot and they are one of the definitive progressive rock bands so I upped them to a 2) Deep Purple (Level 2) Lyrics to me are merely a supplement to music. (including Chicago) Bon Jovi - 1 Lincoln The Pretenders: 8/10 By the way, do you guys think I was right in picking The Zombies and Bon Jovi (both level 1) for "great short career" and "very good long career" or would other acts fit those terms better? The J.B.'s Aside from that, I don't recall claiming that my shit doesn't stink; that would be very much unlike me. 2/10 = Failure Either you have the music and the accomplishments or you don't. I agree about John Lennon. Gail Goodrich, 100. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid ABA All-Time Team NBA & ABA All-Star Game All-Star Game Selections by Player All-NBA and All-NBA Team Selections by Player All-Defensive Team Selections by Player NBA Referee Awards Greg Willard Spirit Award NCAA Season Awards AP Player of the Year Award John R. Wooden Award 6. The Notorious B.I.G.-Level 3 Joan Baez- 4 Fleetwood Mac: 8/10 Is Paul a better athlete than Stockton? The Zombies 90. LaVern Baker Not a shock, since they also decided it was a good idea to put in Nile Rodgers as a sideman when substantially all his HOF credentials were through Chic (which he himself acknowledged), which ironically has destroyed Chic's chances (since they technically can't factor him in as he was inducted on his work with Chic amongst other groups). Come on guys, let's put MJ in Level 5. Posted by astrodog on Thursday, 10/31/2013 @ 23:38pm. The Coasters 9/10 = All Time Greats Rod Stewart 47. Kiss: 7/10 Looks like it from what I remember. HARDLY !! Ruth Brown: 8/10 Run-DMC The person who said The Moody Blues were a 5, c'mon. Not really. Hank Ballard (and the Midnighters) Booker T. and the M.G.s Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers: 9/10 77. how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six greatest players in the history of pro Loudest other then metal: THe Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Who, The Stooges, Public Enemy, Dave Clark Five. Was it based on their brilliant songs? 105. Brenda Lee: 6/10 "Swept For You Baby" The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby). And, while you're thinking about THAT, Consider THIS: Public Enemy (lower 2nd) . No again. Patti Smith "Shop Around" Captain & Tennille, Don Bryant, The Astronauts, The Allusions, and Georgie Fame, Neil Merryweather and Lynn Carey, among numerous others. Joan Baez (and yes, I'd still put her in the bottom rung, though she'd be closer to the top of that bottom rung) Eurythmics (Level 1) If youre trying to make a case for him being dumb, then KD over those guys is not the way to do it. 162. Here's part 2 of the rating the performers. Many of the Miracles' songs have been major hits or important recordings for other artists. Earth, Wind & Fire: 8/10 Lennon had one brilliant record (his first real solo record) and one decent one (the overrated 'Imagine'), and then some good songs sprinkled amidst a lot of filler and crap. Flags of the World El_Dandy Flags of the World: Progressively Harder El_Dandy NFL 30,000 Passing Yards, One Team . R.E.M: 10/10 He popularized the stretch 4 in some respects as he extended his range out towards the back half of The Heatles experiment. My point is that there are many other people who influenced the influencers farther down on the pyramid. Why was the last minute of Game 6 so emotional? 2010 Posted by FRL on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 10:05am. Smokey Robinson (and the Miracles) Here is how the artists in the pyramid sit relative to the rest of the artists in rock and roll. " The Velvet Underground: 10/10 Laura Nyro: Influenced Billy Joel. CCR: 9/10 His vocal styling influenced numerous singers in the alternative and new wave scenes, from Robert Smith to David Byrne. Eddie Cochran: 9/10 Posted by The Dude on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:40pm, Posted by The Dude on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:43pm. MORE PROOF !!! Braveheart Posted by Zach on Thursday, 11/27/2014 @ 23:32pm. If they don't? Plebeian, :), Posted by Cheesecrop on Friday, 03/8/2013 @ 15:51pm. Jefferson Airplane: 8/10 Only one problem: 10 years later, were in the middle of the player empowerment era and The Secret might not matter anymore. A couple others like AC/DC Is there any way we can realign the pyramid with the artist rankings we did over the course of last year? Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 14:58pm, 1. The Dells Look at this list of artists that have COVERED The MIRACLES' SONGSand tell me that they DON'T belong at level 4: From Wikipedia: What seemed important 15 years ago may not seem as important now. Except on Neil Young, of course. Favorite induction year? 176. Ritchie Valens Heckthe first Motown act, PERIOD. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. 2003 Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea . Read our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy to get more information and learn how to set up your preferences. 17. I quit listening to the "Classic Rock" stuff back in my senior year of high school. Level 3 by Nash. How much should Hardens playoff stumbles matter for him historically? The Cars Pink Floyd: 10/10 Billy Cunningham, 55. "I've Been Good To You" Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations. John Lennon Overall personality-wise, I'll say Prince. I still question that there isn't more room in each rung, there should be more room added with each class. The Go-Go's-1 Can't answer in seven. The Blues Brothers "Ooo Baby Baby" Linda Ronstadt, Brenda Holloway, Shalamar, Ruby Turner, Sylvester, Spirit Traveler, Five Stairsteps, Zapp, Laura Nyro, Ella Fitzgerald, Honey Cone, Human Nature, Fingazz Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps: 7/10 54. The "most civilized" question is mostly on how the artist acts in society or performances. 107. Steely Dan Hell, when it comes time for kanye are we really gonna say his mark isn't bigger than say the who (who i love)? The hierarchy in the pyramid was primarily determined by artist rankings here and here. The charter of the Pyramid states no MVP can drop below Level 3 unless it's for a good reason. 1994 Willie Dixon The Great Bill Simmons.. Aight. 71. The Smiths 197. Eminem (Level 4) Their music and songs have influenced artists all over the world in every major musical genre over the last 50 years. Bob Marley: 10/10 The success of the Miracles actually launched the Motown Records label, and, according to Motown Records founder, Berry Gordy, without the Miracles,the Motown Record Corporation would not have been possible." John Lee Hooker 1 bestselling book around the premise in 2009.. Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? 1995 The Orioles Great survey, John! The Police: 9/10 Level 3 Tier 4 is their place. (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) The Who, Metallica, Led Zeppelin would all rank up there. Arvydas Sabonis, 98. Lou Reed 7. Judas Priest would have been a Level 2 if they were inducted as performers. David Bowie Cheap Trick - 1 143. What;s the first song ANY kid learns on guitar?? They were the forefathers of "progressive rock," after all. "From Head to Toe" Elvis Costello, Chris Clark As for who I think next year will be: Nirvana, Deep Purple (long overdue, though I wouldn't complain if KISS went instead), some combination of The Cure/Depeche Mode/The Smiths, N.W.A., Chic, Posted by Sam on Thursday, 04/11/2013 @ 12:25pm. Any music released from the early 90s onwards that involves a drum kit and electric guitar has been influenced by Metallica in one way or another, from commercial/stadium rock to the most inaccessible of extreme metal. Posted by BSLO on Friday, 11/1/2013 @ 10:40am. Free shipping for many products! I'm sure that you all accept that INFLUENCE is one of the most important factors in Musical Greatness. 216. Prince: 10/10 All The Jurassic Park films Recently Updated. BB King: 10/10 3/10 = Mediocre You like what you like. Chicago Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 03:39am. Talking Heads: 9/10 George Harrison 100. Bruce Springsteen: 10/10 Underrated by casual fans as a defensive player, but did make All-D in '18-'19. C'mon time to add class of 2017 in pyramid: Pearl Jam,Journey,ELO,Joan Baez,Yes and 2Pac. Is it fair to swap players based on one series at the tail end of their careers? Green Day Clyde McPhatter: 8/10 Kobe Bryant, 8. Diana Ross seems to be a rather unpleasant lady based on her public outbursts. Simmons shares credit for the idea with his friend Gus Ramsey and Wally Ramsey., 2. 3)John Lennon-Imagine being so overrated, it isn't hard to do, too much love being in the Beatles, but that should have been all for you. Wow, thanks for sharing, where do you get all this information from if I may know? Wilt, 6. Bob Lanier, 105. Planes, Trains, & Automobiles Bob Cousy, 23. "[9] Producer Quincy Jones called the group the "Beethovens of The 20th Century" due to their songwriting talents. Feel free to argue about the order in the comments below, but remember, you can't move someone up without moving someone else down.. The Kinks: 10/10 to "Did they influence a lot of acts afterwards?" I'm not going to rehash the r/NBA argument about Harden. -Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, James Brown, Aretha Franklin Robert Horry, 97. 5. a.k.a. Ike & Tina Turner: 9/10 Michael Jackson: 10/10 2020 No. Note: Emails will not be visible or used in any way, but are required. By kbarbs37. Favorite Hip-Hop inductee? Well, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Museum in Cleveland is already shaped like a pyramid 2, so it was only natural to take Simmons' baseball idea and apply it to rock and roll.. Chicago: Level 2 119. Except perhaps Bon Jovi, which I would put in the sub-basement if it were within my power to do so. Level 3 ?? If Nick Drake ever gets in, he wins hands down. Bill G., Marvin Gaye "Swept For You Baby" The Sylvers, The Blenders, The Tamlins (as Sweat For You Baby). 2. Posted by Follower on Friday, 01/11/2019 @ 18:50pm. George Harrison: 8/10 The Mamas & The Papas: 6/10 2003 move to 2: "Baby Baby Don't Cry" Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt. Most unworthy: For me, Percy Sledge, Laura Nyro, and Del Shannon stand out. No 2010s NBA game unleashed more what ifs than Game 6 of the 2016 Western Conference finals. Heart whitney houston - 3 or 4 Your favorite inductees (You can pick at least 7)? If the Bucks win the title? Jay-Z and Biggie Smalls are in the most appropriate level. 5) THE SUPREMES at # 97 Bruce Springsteen, Chuck D, Smokey Robinson, Curtis Mayfield, Fats Domino and Darlene Love The Flamingos Stevie Wonder 2019 Uh, yea. Tupac - 3 1993 Dinah Washington If I had to create a pyramid from this year's nominations alone, this is how I would create it. "The Love I Saw In You Was Just a Mirage" The Jackson 5, Vance Gilbert, The Uniques Let's kick this thing off with Bill Simmons' idea for the Basketball Hall of Fame - the Pyramid, he calls it. Paul McCartney: 8/10 Yes - 2 They at least had a beat and memorable songs. R.E.M. Dolph Schayes, 59. Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 10:57am. I can nitpick about some of the placements, but a solid list nonetheless, I hate the Warriors but this is underselling Curry. "You've Really Got a Hold on Me" Percy Sledge, Barbara McNair, The Beatles, The Temptations, The Supremes, The Zombies, Aidan Smith, Sonny & Cher, Mickey Gilley, Eddie Money, Cyndi Lauper, The Bobs, Greg Brown, Small Faces, Bobby McFerrin, Derrick Harriott, UFO8, and She & Him among many others. Posted by Roy on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 05:27am. Too many, though I'd probably say the Stones for starters. The Pretenders 160. The Ronettes: 6/10 Dominique Wilkins, 63. 2Pac Both from their own testimonies and from pointing out sonic connections. Something went wrong. N.W.A: 9/10 I fully expect him to skyrocket up these rankings as soon as this summer. 120. 1999 Meanest: Ike Turner! They were the VANGUARD ACT of Berry Gordy's Motown empire. Eagles: 9/10 The Sixth Man award almost always goes to the NBAs highest-scoring bench player. Bon Jovi would, naturally, be closer to the bottom, Posted by Tyler Partnow on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 20:19pm. Monty Python & The Holy Grail Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 10/23/2018 @ 14:25pm. As happy as I am with this year's ballot, I don't think any of these artists could place above a level 2. I slotted him in next to McAdoo since their careers have some similarities so far in terms of pure accolades. Least deserving inductee (anyone but Madonna, ABBA, or any Hip Hop inductees*)? Favorite inductee outside of the U.S. and the U.K.? 26. * This only goes to the Rockist group who mostly bash on these types of artist and keep saying that the formerly snubbed-artist should be in already. Meanest: Jerry Lee Lewis, Sid Vicious, Little Willie John. Laura Nyro 41. Hardcover. Madonna But every 15 that are added should mean one more to Level 5, two more to 4, and so on. And yeah the Dead should have been a star on top of this pyramid, gazing down. "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra "Determination" The Contours. -Weirdest? Topic: Bill Simmons NBA Hall of Fame Pyramid (Read 15787 times) chelo. Tom Waits -Most influential? Eagles: 9/10 Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:53pm, Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:55pm. Did they have transcendent songs and albums or memorable moments? Most nicest inductee? 2016 by fjdbookreview. Argument could be made for a level 5, on the par with James Brown for a mid-career musical reinvention that created a brand new major genre. Jackson Browne 4. 14. 126. Elvis Presley: 10/10 I understand their attempts, and respect it to some degree. Bon Jovi: 4/10 Big Joe Turner: 9/10 21. SMF 2015, Simple Machines. Buddy Guy: 8/10 4/10 = Marginal 172. Blondie: 8/10 He's made 3 1st Team All-NBAs, but only made the playoffs twice (this year will be the 3rd). Some great musicality But, say, Aerosmith is #3 ? Were they the greatest team of all time? 2005 was pretty good too. Little Richard, Metallica, The Jimi Hendrix Experience, AC/DC, and Van Halen would all qualify The Dave Clark Five The Doobie Brothers: 6/10 2001 Amen and speak the truth! 222. Dave DeBusschere, 52. As a Beatle, sure, but definitely not as a solo artist. "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston Posted by Enigmaticus on Thursday, 10.31.13 @ 09:54am, Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:54am, I am shocked that Enig would think that "In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher. If no one here had an interest in anything earlier than the Beatles, I wouldn't be coming here to gush over Buddy Holly or Fats Waller. Tim Duncan, 7. Pete Maravich, 77. Muddy Waters: 10/10 Depeche Mode-Level 2 Dan Issel, 88. School of Rock Heart: 7/10 While there are plenty of eligible snubbed artists out there, there are likely very few, if any, who would make it into Level 4 of the pyramid if they were ever inducted (Level 5 is impenetrable at this point by any non-Hall of Famer). "(You Can) Depend On Me" The Temptations, The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway, Barbara Mason. The Beach Boys 3/10 = Mediocre 15. I would think acts like Parliament - Funkadelic, Sex Pistols, Frank Zappa, Curtis Mayfield, The Stooges, AC/DC, Guns N' Roses & The Yardbirds should move up to Level 3 because they have defined genres in their own right. Then, on Feb. 24, 2019, he revised Curry to be top 20. As of 2012, there are 180 inductees in the performer category, which divides up nicely into 5 groups, each with multiples of 12 artists (Level 1 has 60, Level 2 has 48, etc.). Tier 3 - Tupac Shakur, Pearl Jam Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) The Police Eventually, the powers that be will finally realize that Rush deserves to have a spot on the third tier, if not the fourth tier. Dr. John and the Miracles New York Dolls (Level 1) One of the more underappreciated recent stars in the NBA. Shound have been inducted on the first ballot: Black Sabbath, The Stooges, Alice Copper, Neil Diamond, Genesis, Queen, Velvet Underground, The Beastie Boys, Grandmaster Flash & The Furious Five. T.Rex-Level 3 Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong or crazy or both in the comments. I'll concede they're important enough to be in the hall, but ranking them higher than the Doors, Grateful Dead, Zappa, or even Jefferson Airplane (a possible influence) is ridiculous. Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 04:20am. And if you did mean the bottom tier, I'm a little surprised putting Joan Baez down there. 221. "That's What Love Is Made Of" Michael Jackson, Bobby Vee, Choker Campbell, The Magicians. They're not interested in "secondhand influence" or "undercurrent carriage" of rhythms, sounds, influence or innovation. Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/12/2021 @ 23:27pm, 2020 Will you always remember seeing them in concert, even when you're 80 years old and peeing on yourself? Here are the questions: 27 Johnny Cash Joan Baez - 1 Playing off the NBAs dramatic changes during the past decade, Bill uses new commentary and fresh interviews with players and top media members to determine how the league has evolved and where its headed. I meant the DIRECT influence on later generations of rockers from people who were rockers themselves. Rosetta was put in as an Early Influence, but I get what you mean; man, they really let some of these sections go to waste! "More Love" Kim Carnes, Paul Young, Barbara McNair, Mica Paris, The 5th Dimension, Rick Webb, Foster Sylvers. Jerry West, 9. Finished season 1 of it, its not over. Outside of Biggie and Jay-Z, no one else really needs to be above Level 1. 1995 Do you know when he mentioned this? The Pretenders: 8/10 224. 51. Update the pyramid. I am williams by name. Patti Smith: 9/10 Best hip hop: Public Enemy. "Would I Love You" - Len Barry. 139. Questions 6 &7 are differnet type of questions. Bill Haley (and His Comets) on Friday, 03/8/2013 @ 16:03pm, Responses below it looks like your asking only about Performer inductees, or maybe Early Influence, too. Solomon Burke: 7/10 Electric Light Orchestra 137. 6. 59. 2000 177. The Hobbit Cheap Trick: 6/10 Because of the lamestream press' overhype of the Pistols, several people actually think they started punk rock, which of course they didn't. -Hard to say ultimately, it's really about the music and their commitment to it. Would vintage Shaq have been better or worse in 2019? Most snubbed before finally inducted: Neil Diamond, hands down. Frank Zappa The Beach Boys 5 Posted by Follower on Sunday, 01/20/2019 @ 15:23pm, Well, it's no longer multiples of twelve and hasn't been since the first year. They had just released Kid A, and since they were the most written about band at the time, I gave it a listen, and I just don't see it. ZZ Top: 7/10 Cheap Trick The Spinners Oh Wait, those dimwhits on the election committee have overlooked them again! I was not alive for either group's heyday, so I can't speak to their innovation upon their arrival on the music scene. Any content deemed inappropriate or offensive may be edited and/or deleted. 2021: Dennis Johnson, 61. Percy Sledge: Influenced Al Green and the Allman Brothers Band. Sex Pistols (Level 3) 169. Billy Joel: 9/10 Talented as hell, but weird as hell. Clearly one of the 10 best players in the league in the latter half of this decade, but got saddled with an incompetent front office. I assumed you meant the bottom, but I don't wanna put words in your mouth. Level 1 T. Rex-1, maybe 2 The Sex Pistols took a violent stance. For example, in the Aug. 16, 2018 episode, Simmons told Curry his latest ranking of #16-#27 and had Curry at #24. Radiohead were around then. Bailey Howell, 104. 147. Heart (high 3rd) 113. Let me know if my analogies don't work as well. Curtis Mayfield: 9/10 35. Of course, wherever they go, Black Sabbath still has to be above them. 1996 Pete Seeger not only how NBA Hall of Fame inductees should be chosen but how the institution must be reshaped from the ground up, the result being the Pyramid: Simmons's one-of-a-kind five-level shrine to the ninety-six 103. P.S. Madonna (Level 4) The Four Tops: 10/10 *******Here's the REAL KICKER !! Lynyrd Skynyrd: 8/10 1989 Joan Baez - 1 Rating Numbers: Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:34am, In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. Posted by Corey Finn on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 14:23pm, 2022 inductees: Level 5 is the top of the pyramid, literally and figuratively. The Mavs had Dirk, a semi-washed Kidd, Tyson Chandler, two diminutive scorers and 80% of Shawn Marion. Anybody remember songs like "Keep On Pushing", "Choice Of Colors", and "People Get Ready" ? Lastly, I would move Big Joe Turner to the top of the first level or the bottom of the second level. Metallica: 10/10 Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:25am, Posted by Plebeian on Wednesday, 05/4/2022 @ 09:26am. Bowies, Springsteen, Aretha (at least! If Liny Wray was inducted, he would be on four. Posted by Michael W on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 14:58pm. Steve Nash, 41. Ruth Brown See the rankings as for this Basketball Hall of Fame Sets set on 6/19/2022 7:31:31 AM. 3) THE FOUR TOPS at # 79 Most influential besides Beatles, Elvis and Chuck: Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid; ABA All-Time Team; NBA & ABA All-Star Game. Dirk Nowitski (up from Level 2, below Mikan). Please enter a valid email and try again. The Doors Just gets cut off from the top level. In the pilot episode of TBOB Rewatchables, recorded earlier this year on The Bill Simmons Podcast, Bill re-lives that historic night with The Ringers Chris Ryan and Joe House. 11. Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions did it YEARS before John Lennon. 6. And believe it or not, but I actually like them. CCR (Level 3) I would also move Talking Heads up to the 4th tier. Madonna should not even be there and in the pyramid's scheme she is higher that Frank Zappa and Jefferson Airplane? 1. The ninety-six greatest basketball players of all time, arranged into five tiers: Levels One through Four, then the Pantheon - the best of the best - at the very top. 153. The Small Faces: 6/10 Michael Jackson Not sure if I spelled his last name right. 2015 Though if Davis and Simon couldn't be Level 2 I don't see Parton sadly. -Quietest? Very, very influential among a myriad of genres and artists. The Isley Brothers Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) 220. Ray Charles didn't make his name in Rock and Roll. "(You Can) Depend On Me" The Temptations, "What's So Good About Goodbye" Giant Sunflower, The Temptations, Quix*O*Tic Eric Clapton Public Enemy: 3 Nirvana 1/10 = Not even worth of mention Dolly Parton-Level 2-The only caveat is that she isn't strictly rock 'n' roll, like Miles Davis, Nina Simone or Joan Baez, but with songs like Jolene, Coat of Many Colors, 9 to 5, I Will Always Love You etc, I think she deserves this position He's gotten outplayed in three Finals - by really great players, but still. Granted, I still enjoy most of the artists I've advocated during my heyday on FRL, but I simply have no time for music that overemphasizes lyrics at the expense of musicianship and technical ability. Bobby Womack: 7/10 Posted by Jordan Einstein on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 16:06pm. 132. 91. Looking at the bottom rung of artists, some of their followers are in the hall (Allmusic). "My Girl Has Gone" Etienne Daho, Bobby Taylor, Edwyn Collins, Ken Parker. On David Bowie, I agree with you on his importance in rock and roll but, I just hate it when people glorify him as the father of glam rock when T. Rex and The New York Dolls started the movement. https://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/2020/01/every-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-inductee-ranked-from-best-to-bon-jovi.html Shrewd businessman, but civilized. LEVEL FOUR ? 209. 195. I have seen that. - The initial pyramid had 96 players after 64 NBA seasons, so 1.5 players per season. The Flamingos: 6/10 158. 12. Pat Benatar The Beatles: 10/10 1998 Jelly Roll Morton Aretha Franklin: 10/10 Neil Diamond: 7/10 Tupac - 3 How did the series flip? Retired Col. Eric Toler received the Defense Superior Service Medal, Legion of Merit and two Bronze Star Medals during his 27-year military career. Favorites: The Beatles, Elton John, Queen, CSN, Linda Ronstadt, Cat Stevens, The Beach Boys, Ruth Brown, Joni Mitchell. The Stooges Hal Greer, 54. 82. The Drifters: 10/10 But, Chris Paul has not been dealt a shit hand. 72. Was Kazaam better than Steel? Depeche Mode (Level 2) The only thing that makes sense in this pyramid is that Beatles is the top followed by Led Zeppelin (which should have had the name Pink Floyd next to it followed by Chuck Bery and Dylan--Dylan had some of the best music out there but surely enough it could never be as tight as LZ). Lots of 1s easily are 3 and 4s. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. a) metal is actually such a huge genre and scene, easily the largest and most enduring underground music scene. Chris Mullin, 94. 182. You hate the way he plays. Andrew - Just so you know, this Pyramid only includes acts that are in the actual Hall of Fame. Loudest other than metal: The Kinks Eminem due to his position in both rap and the 21st century maybe should be a high level 4 or possible dare i say maybe just cracking 5. 1986 and 1986. Bob Marley, too. "Doggone Right" Bobby Davis. 1987 Hank Williams Frankie Lymon: Influenced Stevie Wonder, Jackson 5, Beach Boys, and The Miracles. "Nowhere To Go- Kanye West (as the basis of his song "About An Angel"), Beanie Sigel (as "Got Nowhere"), Freeway "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. Crosby, Stills & Nash: 7/10 The Jimi Hendrix Experience What did that night say about Shaq, that bizarre Lakers season, and a now-underrated champion from Detroit that wouldnt roll over? The Book of Basketball was an achievement. Also available in . Earlier this month, he added another distinction to his rsum as he was inducted into the Army ROTC Hall of Fame as part of the 24-member Class of 2021.. We are talking about Rock music here, right? 33. ------------------- Bump him up. 6/10 = Decent Artists Posted by DarinRG on Wednesday, 08/3/2016 @ 19:16pm. Rodin Hood: Men In Tights Pearl Jam and Nina Simone are borderline Level 2/3 acts, in my opinion. 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