This guide was written by turtle225 and Abel and was added with their permission to this blog. Next round starts and you attack again giving you 1-2 rounds of attacks in before the enemy can retaliate or defend themselves. With all of those points in mind, people usually pass on 9L in favor of defensive perks that are more consistently helpful, and/or to use escape perks such as Rotation/Footwork. If you look at a lot of old guides, some will tell you that you only need 60 HP on your Forge units. ?Yeah I hear you. There are some enemies that will specifically attack your morale and Rally is important in these fights. If your build just wants these skills for tactical flexibility and just-in-case scenarios then it wont hurt Dodge much. Disarm no longer has a -15% accuracy penalty. Essentially, it acts as a multiplier on total armor durability. Sure, let's walk through the correct answer (for front liners). Defensive and/or escape perks/tools would be good. Dragon Quest VI : Le Royaume des songes. It's an action, adventure, exploration, narrative driven, musical-laser-light-battle kind of game. Brothers with natural low HP/high fatigue are better off just levelling HP every level and being nimble (or fatigue neutral). Caves of Qud Beginner Guide (Spoiler-free) . You likely want Mind as already mentioned. Since you are only going to be getting headshot ~25% of the time it makes more sense to take Colossus which is always helpful. Direwolf attachment recommended. Brow and GiftedThe aforementioned discussion also analyzes the impact of Brow and Gifted on Nimble.Gifted provides an additional 3 Defense and 5 HP (Colossus) which particularly benefits Nimble. Chosen. Roman is the attacker and he is adjacent to the blue hat Raider along with 2 of my other bros with Swords. FA is all about reliability. As negative morale lowers all stats, Fearsome gives both offensive and defensive support for you and your team. 1Handers are more expensive than 2Handers for their two swings, and defensive skills are expensive. This build can work very well in Goblin fights with the Goblin Trophy to prevent rooting (and Resilient to protect from Flies). As an example, Duelist + Throwing Mastery Heavy Javelins at 2 range out damages non-Orc melee Duelists. Due the nature of increasing returns from MDF (see Game Mechanics), Reach has potential to be very strong on bros who already have high defense and/or who are capable of consistently getting multiple stacks per turn. If you can consistently do this then it does wonders for the RES problems and you can even Rally if there is trouble. You can attack (5 AP) and swap to a Heater (4 AP). Gash goes to 50% reduced injury threshold (from 33%). The extra defense granted by Shield Expert is the most important point and Im going to focus on the bonus to the Heater as any dedicated tanking bro is going to be using a Heater Shield. Nimble benefits more here than Forge. So Overwhelm very much wants you to attack on your first action and immediately end turn and not wait. Tweaks and Fixes. In BB, its a much better idea to focus fire your damage on just a few enemies at a time to quickly get kills rather than spreading damage around the enemy party. Second, Fearsome grants a malus to the targets RES score equal to 20% of your RES score. There are only so many kills you will be getting each turn, so it is ok to have some damage dealers who do not have Frenzy who can setup the kills for the Frenzy bros. Focusing too much on famed armor is a bit of a min-max mindset, as there is no guarantee you will find a lot of famed armor or that it will roll particularly well or that you will find it early. Armor Ignoring DamageIn order to make use of CS, we want to injure enemies before having to fully destroy their armor, so understanding this part of the damage formula is helpful. I'm not saying that fatigue is ALWAYS bad on front liners. With high defense, each stack gained is more valuable. Any shield smash cannot hurt you and getting more wasted enemy turns is great. Sunken Library requires a lot of movement through sandAlthough sand tiles only cost 2AP, they cost 6 FAT. The extra shield damage can help against Schrats, and Conscripts lack Shield Expert meaning a most 1H Axes with spec and one shot their shields, but otherwise shield breaking is not usually worth your AP/FAT. Those criteria are for good bros, the ones that can keep my company thriving into late game. Alternate starts, commanders, camping, world generation, art, effects, new enemies, new weapons, new skills and AI changes. Instead of repeating myself multiple times throughout the guide, I will explain these here. For example, you start the turn with the Banner out, QH to Hook/Whip/Net, do the thing (4 or 5 AP), and then use the remaining 4 or 5 AP to bring the Banner back out allowing you to maintain the Banner buff that you want to have while also having the ability to use other weapons/items. Your LW forgoes his adjacency support and can face a lot of enemies at once for more penalties. Ive brought back liners into Goblin City with Nimble as their only defensive perk, with only 70 HP and less than 10 RDF, and they were ok. However, grabbing a crucial tile in-between the lines or running up a hill to secure space for your team can be important. You are much more resistant to injuries with 80-90+ HP than with 60 HP. Mastery makes it a lot easier to use Lash and is worth 15-25 accuracy against shielded enemies which is huge. Neither weapon will be using its special very often as Duelists because they want to be dealing damage. Overwhelm can help protect other teammates. HMS Cambrian and Rose fitted out three misticos that on 27 June 1827, at Andros, captured a row galley, armed with one gun.The galley's 30, or 35 crew members escaped ashore. Fun new guide that helps illustrate the billion viable builds now in the game, running the gamut from traditional BF to hardcore Nimble scrapper to wacky Overwhelm warscythe and Relentless stuff: Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Savants will often try to warp off of your tank if you dont Taunt them to go after weaker bros. You can use this to your advantage to get the Savants warping back and forth reducing the number of attacks they deliver. Brawny beats it regularly on non-famed 300+ armor but once you have famed armor, which is almost always lighter, then Brawny and Gifted start to be closer. So other than a glowing endorsement of AFP, what is going on in this table? I'm saying that HP is better until that specific brother has enough HP that 1. This tactic works better the more bros on your team have Adrenaline and the lesser enemies are faced, but it can still be effective with just one or a few bros using it. Famed 300 armors have a wide range of FAT costs that will impact Brawny value. Dodge for example is probably a 10/10 on some builds and a 1/10 on others, so how do we give it a singular rating quantitatively? Because light armor stinks without Nimble, Nimble has one of the highest returns on perk point investment. Characters receive a hidden +3 Resolve on negative morale checks for each adjacent ally. Adrenaline, etc.). It has been beaten without Pathfinder however, so dont feel like it is forced. A safe back liner can get away with less. This is not what you should be doing. In some ways this is similar to weapon specs as far as saving FAT goes, but of course it depends on how much you move. Early game perks are very impactful to your weak bros and skipping on them for Student is a greed play that you should not be making unless you are comfortable with the game. Winged Mace Double Grip only: 7.42 hits on average. Basically it would just a better version of the Necro/Noble line. Pathfinder + Mastery can allow you to swing for 12 and move for 2-3 most of the time, allowing this build to become FAT neutral on most terrain types and still move + attack even when capped on FAT. Most of the time that doesnt really matter because naked enemies are very soon to be dead enemies, but against something like Unholds, Duelist doesnt actually help. Characters will benefit from Bags as long as the extra given tools are being used. If you like a slower and more defensive team then Recover might be more useful for you. Recover isnt for everyoneHowever, some players seem to slap Recover onto every bro assuming that it is going to be necessary or perhaps as a safety net. Gash also costs a hefty 15 FAT per swing compared to Mace/Hammer 10/11. Taking Taunt on a skilled unit doesnt make much sense because you could be spending your time killing instead of Taunting. Better on slower brosThe slower you bro is compared to the enemies that you are facing the more you gain from Adrenaline. HH is a respectable damage perk nowHH got reworked in BD and is no longer as dubious/weak as it was in the past. Indom is not a passive effect and expensive to spamOf course, the downside to Indom is that it is not a passive effect. How can i make my tanks faster? Recover can help 2H builds but it is by no means a necessity. You want to avoid/prevent these situations in the first place. . Standing next to adjacent friendly bros grants +3 hidden RES bonus for each bro. Having Rotations whether they are on your frontline or backline can be a great way to help distribute damage across the whole party instead of putting the full brunt of it onto the frontline. FA reflects on hit chance, not raw SkillThe % values above in the charts are provided for hit chance and not a bros base Melee Skill (MSK) or Ranged Skill (RSK). An INI based build doesnt necessarily need Relentless. The brothers end up with similar stat lines at level 11 and don't qualify for different builds. Ive been mostly negative about CS so far so lets add some positivity because it isnt all bad. Otherwise, you dont need it. Going first or early in the turn order is valuable as acting before enemies can allow you to kill or debuff them before they get to act. Nimble usually performs better against weapons with high AID such as two-handed weapons or Crossbows, while Forge excels against repeated weak attacks. Every stat is huge. Nimble gets exponentially worse the higher the FAT penalty, so best keep close to the 40% value. They arent going to shoot your guy with 20 RDF whether he has Anticipation or not, they are going to shoot the weakest link. + Increases SKL and DEF, the best stats+ Never a bad choice, as more SKL and DEF is always good+ Flexibility to choose stats depending on your needs Flexibility can also be a downside, as maybe you want a more specialized perk for your needs, Grants a spendable level up screen like a normal level up where you choose 3 stats, but with every stat getting a max roll without regarding stars. Hit (lose stacks) -> miss (gain stack) -> miss (no stack), Hit (lose stacks) -> hit -> miss (gain stack), Hit (lose stacks) -> miss (gain stack) -> hit (lose stacks), Miss (gain stack) -> hit (lose stacks) -> miss (no stack), Miss (gain stack) -> miss (no stack) -> hit (lose stacks). Every section has been modified slightly, wordings changed, things added or removed, etc. Riposte: Enemies have no other targetWhether Duelist or shielded, when enemies can only attack you then it guarantees Riposte value. The backbone of the Gilded are their Nimble Conscripts. Riposte: Value hinges on dodgingRiposte retaliates with an attack for every time you dodge. DoT effects like bleeds from Cleavers and Webknecht poison deal fixed HP damage over a certain amount of turns. My perspective is that of Expert Economy and Combat, Low Funds and Ironman using all DLC and no mods. . QH has a lot of obvious offensive uses, allowing the bro to switch between weapons depending on the circumstances, or even swapping weapons mid turn. You shouldnt ever be taking shots that have a risk of hitting your own guys in the first place whether you have Bullseye or not. I encourage you to read other guides as well and come to your own conclusions where we guide writers disagree.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'gamerofpassion_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_3',105,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-gamerofpassion_com-medrectangle-3-0'); With the Blazing Deserts (BD) DLC out and the Switch release on the horizon, we will likely see an influx of new players that will be seeking assistance. One reason being headshot damage applying last in the damage formula (see Game Mechanics). doesnt help HH much as by definition you must have hit something to have gained a HH stack, meaning you wont have any FA stacks to support the next strike. You can switch out a shield (4AP) and pop Indom for 5AP in the same turn, converting your 2Hander into a makeshift tank, should he find himself under a lot of pressure. Archers & Throwers Base ammunition should sufficeSome players favor Bags on archers. Accuracy perks can help improve HH consistencyAs stacks are lost on missing, picking up Gifted and/or Backstabber can increase your returns on HH by reducing your odds of missing. Unless fighting Goblins, it is entirely possible to build a bro capable of going first every turn if his INI is high enough. 120/95: Shorthand for armor line. Normally the rarity of headshots can make them prohibitive to actually killing enemies as they have a healthy helmet to absorb the blow. There are three ways to get more value out of ReachThe first is to increase your bros skill. Mind helps maintain higher morale levels, which means better statsMind helps protect against morale drops which would penalize your stats. + Very good against Hexen+ Status effects can be crippling/annoying, and less damage from bleeds Better on Nimble who tends to be more bothered by status than Forge Status effects are fairly rare Status effects are usually not too bothersome to devote a perk Less bleeding damage is not good enough reason to take Resilient over another defensive perk. Then on turn 3 you should go last because you are a slow Forge unit, meaning your Indom/Spearwall/Reach/etc holds through turn 3 as well, allowing you to get two turns out of one use of the skill. This combination makes Berserk one of the best perks in the game for fighting the large and difficult battles you will find later on. And at the very least you want 80 free fat. In this regard, Anticipation suffers terribly from a win-more problem. Going from 47 defense to 50 defense is a massive increase in overall durability due to increasing returns from defense. If you have a good understanding of positioning and how the AI works then you can skip on FW for better perks. 2Handers and DuelistsThese are your primary damage dealers and they very much enjoy having Frenzy buffs. Frontline: Youll be in cover by turn 2Anticipation on front 2Handers/Duelists has a few problems. The higher durability of these units means that they are harder to kill quickly, which means injuries have more time/likelihood to provide value. The more the better. The main problem lies in its inability to deal any meaningful armor ignoring damage due to each individual attack being so weak and due to the way that remaining armor reduces the amount of HP damage taken. While the effect on Round Shields is fairly weak (compare to Dodge or Gifted), an early Heater Shield buy with Shield Expert and some other defensive perks can make just about any bro respectably durable. The best weapons to use HH are going to be those with high armor ignoring damage (AID). The takeaway is that stacking MDF is very strong. Even Hedge Knights can enjoy having Gifted, especially for stacking more MDF. Sometimes you find a bro with great defense and other stats but his skill isnt great. Berserk is the premier offensive perk in the gameThe nature of the game really favors Berserk for two big reasons. 2Handers get some accuracy help. However, Swords have a lower FAT cost than the above options and a bonus +10% accuracy. With Dagger Mastery you can attack three times per turn giving you a pretty good chance at landing some hits and potentially getting useful debuffs like Injured Shoulder, Piercing Arm Muscle, or Pierced Hand. FlailFlail Duelists tend to be a good deal weaker than the above options, but they have some advantages that can make them worth considering. This also allows Indebted to reach the bottom line of the perk tree which is otherwise unreachable for them without Student. +15% accuracy on Disarm is huge, and many people commonly add Cleaver Mastery to their Polearm users just to have improved Disarm utility. It gives a passive damage reduction which helps avoid serious head injuries. For example, a super tank that never cares about attacking anyway doesnt need a Mastery. Mace has innate 40% Ignore and Hammer has 50%. ShamshirThe main draw of the Shamshir is that it can deal injuries better with its Gash. Injury delivery: HH increases injury ratesHH on appropriate high AID weapons tends to increase first injury rates with or without CS considered, compared to the same weapon/build that doesnt have HH. 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